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Posted by ibirider Message # 1     Posted at March 25, 2013, 9:21 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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Hallo,

habe gestern upgedatet, hat auch super funktioniert. Funktionsumfang ist wirklich beeindruckend:

Habe jedoch folgendes festgestellt:

1. Kein TV-Ausgang mehr (aber nicht so wichtig)

2. Man kann keine Uhrzeit im Standby-Modus anzeigen lassen. Oder mache ich da was falsch?

3. Wecker alarmiert, obwohl Alarm1+2 auf off

4. bei Internet-Radio wird keine Info (Interpret/Song) im Stream angezeigt (Germany-Bayern 1)

5. würde gerne bei Internet-TV den Sender ZDF schauen, leider down. Kann man da was machen?

Vielen Dank im Voraus für Hilfe.

Gruß Harry

 
Posted by penbex Message # 2     Posted at March 25, 2013, 9:50 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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1. Kein TV-Ausgang mehr (aber nicht so wichtig)

Hello Harry, TV-Out is not (yet) supported.

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2. Man kann keine Uhrzeit im Standby-Modus anzeigen lassen. Oder mache ich da was falsch?

You can use the clock (normal clock display) or nightstand mode (dimmed clock display - so it is not so bright on your nightstand during the night.)
You can set the brightness of the dimmed clock under settings.

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3. Wecker alarmiert, obwohl Alarm1+2 auf off

Upgrade issue. Go to settings, turn alarm 1 and 2 both on and off.
After that the firmware is synchronised with the hardware.

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4. bei Internet-Radio wird keine Info (Interpret/Song) im Stream angezeigt (Germany-Bayern 1)

It is possible that they are not sending this information with the stream.
Alternative is to find a working stream url that contains the information. I will take a look at this later.
The firmware does support displaying song information.

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5. würde gerne bei Internet-TV den Sender ZDF schauen, leider down. Kann man da was machen?

We need to find the URL to the ZDF stream.
Some stations try to block viewing on other devices than through their own website and mobile app to make sure they can display advertisements.

~William

 
Posted by ibirider Message # 3     Posted at March 25, 2013, 10:01 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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Quote:
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1. Kein TV-Ausgang mehr (aber nicht so wichtig)

Hello Harry, TV-Out is not (yet) supported.

ok. Danke

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2. Man kann keine Uhrzeit im Standby-Modus anzeigen lassen. Oder mache ich da was falsch?

You can use the clock (normal clock display) or nightstand mode (dimmed clock display - so it is not so bright on your nightstand during the night.)
You can set the brightness of the dimmed clock under settings.

Das habe ich gesehen. Ich meine aber etwas anderes:

Wenn ich das Gerät mit Fernbedienung ausschalte, sollte es eine Möglichkeit geben, dass die Uhr (Analog/Digital-day/night) AUTOMATISCH angezeigt wird. Im Moment nur über Wahl der Applikation

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3. Wecker alarmiert, obwohl Alarm1+2 auf off

Upgrade issue. Go to settings, turn alarm 1 and 2 both on and off.
After that the firmware is synchronised with the hardware.

Danke für den Tipp

Quote:

4. bei Internet-Radio wird keine Info (Interpret/Song) im Stream angezeigt (Germany-Bayern 1)

It is possible that they are not sending this information with the stream.
Alternative is to find a working stream url that contains the information. I will take a look at this later.
The firmware does support displaying song information.

Super, vielen Dank für Deine Bemühung

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5. würde gerne bei Internet-TV den Sender ZDF schauen, leider down. Kann man da was machen?

We need to find the URL to the ZDF stream.
Some stations try to block viewing on other devices than through their own website and mobile app to make sure they can display advertisements.

Super, vielen Dank für Deine Bemühung
Harry



~William

 
Posted by ibirider Message # 4     Posted at March 25, 2013, 12:33 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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2. Man kann keine Uhrzeit im Standby-Modus anzeigen lassen. Oder mache ich da was falsch?

You can use the clock (normal clock display) or nightstand mode (dimmed clock display - so it is not so bright on your nightstand during the night.)
You can set the brightness of the dimmed clock under settings.

Das habe ich gesehen. Ich meine aber etwas anderes:

Wenn ich das Gerät mit Fernbedienung ausschalte, sollte es eine Möglichkeit geben, dass die Uhr (Analog/Digital-day/night) AUTOMATISCH angezeigt wird. Im Moment nur über Wahl der Applikation

Harry

 
Posted by ibirider Message # 5     Posted at March 26, 2013, 8:57 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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2. Man kann keine Uhrzeit im Standby-Modus anzeigen lassen. Oder mache ich da was falsch?

You can use the clock (normal clock display) or nightstand mode (dimmed clock display - so it is not so bright on your nightstand during the night.)
You can set the brightness of the dimmed clock under settings.

Das habe ich gesehen. Ich meine aber etwas anderes:

Wenn ich das Gerät mit Fernbedienung ausschalte, sollte es eine Möglichkeit geben, dass die Uhr (Analog/Digital-day/night) AUTOMATISCH angezeigt wird. Im Moment nur über Wahl der Applikation

Kann mir jemand weiter helfen? Vielen Dank

Harry

 
Posted by penbex Message # 6     Posted at March 26, 2013, 10:26 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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Wenn ich das Gerät mit Fernbedienung ausschalte, sollte es eine Möglichkeit geben, dass die Uhr (Analog/Digital-day/night) AUTOMATISCH angezeigt wird. Im Moment nur über Wahl der Applikation

Right now, the power button turns on/off the device. Nothing else.

On the HMT350 remote control, the [s.menu] button is used as a task switcher.
If you go to [settings], [Application specific settings] and then [submenu app switching selection] or in German [Programmauswahl für Taskwechsel]
You can activate/deactivate applications that the sub menu button can switch to.
Deactivate all of them with exception of the clock or nightstand clock mode.. and you can use the sub menu button to directly switch to the clock screen. Thats a single button press solution.

The sleeptimer/Auto-off feature already has the ability to either power down the device or to go to clock mode.

I might make an option in a future firmware version to not power off but go to clock mode...

 
Posted by ibirider Message # 7     Posted at March 26, 2013, 11:27 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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Danke!!

 

 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 8     Posted at March 27, 2013, 9:35 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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ibrider, ich habe ein anderes geraet, dass zufaellig (also nicht
programmierbar) folgendes macht: kurzer druck auf die AUS
taste -> screensaver, also auch evtl uhr. langer druck auf die
AUS taste -> komplett aus.

ist es das was dir vorschwebt?

die von william vorgeschlagene ein-tasten methode funktioniert
aber auch problemlos, also ein guter ersatz.

aber > l a n g e < bevor wir uebers abschalten nachdenken sollten
die dinger erst mal TV-sender wie ARD, ZDF und WDR spielen
koennen, viel * W I C H T I G E R * !

wer auch immer dazu beitragen kann, bitte helft william dabei.

*******

ibrider, i have another unit here, which by chance (as such not
programmable) does as follows: a short press on the OFF button
goes into the screensaver, for example the clock. a long press on
the OFF button turns the machine completely off.

is that roughly what you are looking for?

the one-button method that william suggested works well, and
for the time being is a good work-around.

but  > l o n g < before we even think of turning the thing OFF we
have to make it work, on TV stations like ARD, ZDF and WDR,
a real  * F I R S T *!

whoever can assist on this, pls help william to get it done.

gruesse/greetings     - heinz -




 
Posted by ibirider Message # 9     Posted at March 27, 2013, 10:06 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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Hallo Heinz,

mit der Original XORO-FW war es so, wie von Dir beschrieben:

1. Druck->Screensaver; 2.Druck->AUS

Bei der LL 1.48 funktioniert das leider nicht. Auch gibt es ja keinen Screensaver (mehr), deshalb wäre meine Idealvorstellung:

1: AUS (Gerät oder FB) startet automatisch Uhr (wählbar analog,digital-day/night)

2. (Screensaver) (Startzeit wählbar) startet die Applikation Task, wo nach einer gewissen Zeit (einstellbar) auf den jeweils (aktivierten ) Task AUTOMATISCH weiter geschaltet wird.

z.B. Live-Radio läuft, nach (10) Sekunden startet Screensaver-Modus und startet den Task-Manager. Hier werden dann alle aktivierten Tasks (zb. Wetter, Uhr, etc) nacheinander für (5) Sekunden abgebildet und geht dann wieder für (5) Sekunden in den Radio/Player-Modus und beginnt dann wieder mit Task-Modus. Alle (...) bedeuten neue Menüpunkte.

Wie gesagt, das wäre meine Ideal/Traum-Vorstellung zum Gerät. Leider ist mein Englisch nicht gut genug, würdest Du es für Wiliam übersetzten. Das wäre toll von Dir.

Ja, und als letztes dann noch unsere ARD;ZDF,WDR....., dann bin ich im 7. Himmel.

Harry

 
Posted by penbex Message # 10     Posted at March 27, 2013, 11:12 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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No need to translate, I can read German.
Suggestions noted. I will keep them in mind while making changes to the code..
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 11     Posted at March 27, 2013, 11:16 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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harry, fuer den moment ist das ein bisschen zu viel fuer william, aber
ich werds ihm mal genauso vorschlagen - er ist voller ueberaschungen!

aber ein problem mit deinem vorschlag: GANZ ausschalten kann man
dann nur wenn man den stecker zieht? dann halte ich das kurz/lang
system doch fuer besser.

harry, at the moment this might be a bit much for william, but i will
suggest it to him exactly so - he is full of surprises!

but one problem with your idea: completely turning OFF would then
only work by pulling the plug? then i would think the short/long system
is the better one.

  >> dann noch unsere ARD; ZDF, WDR....., dann bin ich im 7. Himmel

ja, und unsere frauen im 8.

gruesse      - heinz -


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(Last Edited by heinz57g on March 27, 2013, 11:26 am)
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 12     Posted at March 27, 2013, 11:21 am,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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william, a simple one: why cannot i not write BOLD, Italics etc in my mssgs?

when i write, it shows up as selectable and in the actual draft, but when it is
posted back in the forum, all is plain text.

what switch have i missed here?

told you, it was a simple question.

greetings      - heinz -

 
Posted by penbex Message # 13     Posted at March 27, 2013, 12:14 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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william, a simple one: why cannot i not write BOLD, Italics etc in my mssgs?

when i write, it shows up as selectable and in the actual draft, but when it is
posted back in the forum, all is plain text.

what switch have i missed here?

test test test  impact largesize5 times comic 12345

Here everything works just fine.
Harry is also using bold/italic in his post so it is not the server side that is blocking things.

Of course not all the HTML features are available because that might lead to security holes.
But the ones that are available on the header bar (bold/italic/underline, link, image etc.) are all allowed.
I know there was an "editor" issue with iOS 4.0 and older as it did not show the extra features but just a text edit box.
Most modern browsers should be fine with this. However, some browser incompatibility is the only thing I can think of.
Here is how it looks for me when editing a message:


~W.


(Last Edited by penbex on March 27, 2013, 12:24 pm)
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 14     Posted at March 27, 2013, 3:00 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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as i said, it looks the same to me when i compose the mssg, all the
formatting/colors are there - then POST REPLY, and all is gone.

you have seen this before, even if i put in manually the control
codes, like [b] and [/b], it just shows them in my mssg but does
not display anything in bold.

am using FIREFOX in some 20++ forums, never seen this before,
but will try CHROME and OPERA right now to see if it differs.

greetings      - heinz -
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 15     Posted at March 27, 2013, 3:10 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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and here my trial with CROME.

greetings     - heinz -

PS: even stranger, the color and font did come through,
but BOLD and Italics on two words did NOT.

next one is OPERA.

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Posted by heinz57g Message # 16     Posted at March 27, 2013, 3:18 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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this one on OPERA, with some words in BOLD and Italics,

different size and color.

what i immediately noticed: it puts an empty line between each

written line - and i cannot erase it. looks funny.


greetings      - heinz -


PS: and here all seems to work, except the funny double-spacing

between lines!





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Posted by penbex Message # 17     Posted at March 27, 2013, 3:58 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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The double spacing is similar as to other text editors (word etc)
Enter gives a large spacing, control-enter gives a small spacing.
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 18     Posted at March 27, 2013, 5:22 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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but why only on OPERA? and why ONLY in this forum?

here i will try it: CTRL-ENTER first ... gives absolutely no reaction.

now just ENTER:

again double space.


greetings      - heinz -



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Posted by penbex Message # 19     Posted at March 27, 2013, 5:28 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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but why only on OPERA? and why ONLY in this forum?

greetings      - heinz -

No idea. Also, do not have the time to go over all the browsers at the moment. 
IE works fine, Safari also works fine.
Chrome: test test courier 2222222  

Bold 

Edit: in Chrome most functions are working here.
Strange enough Bold is not working,
underline, letter type changes, sub/super script are all ok.
I guess some changes are needed for the newer browser versions.

(Last Edited by penbex on March 27, 2013, 5:33 pm)
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 20     Posted at March 27, 2013, 10:57 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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william,
this was NOT a major issue, just something that came in in-between
and had bugged my mind for some time - specially since it only appears
on this site here - one of my favorites.

but for the time being, lets forget it, and concentrate on more important
things. like ARD/ZDF/WDR, or the three 1.48 bricks i have sitting here
for the easter weekend.

greetings     - heinz - 


 
Posted by penbex Message # 21     Posted at March 28, 2013, 12:17 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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bold
italic
As posted with Chrome. So you can now use it.


(Last Edited by penbex on March 28, 2013, 12:39 pm)
 
Posted by heinz57g Message # 22     Posted at March 28, 2013, 6:15 pm,     subject: Xoro HTM 350 mit LL V1.48 - Probelme  
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ok, let me try it in my beloved firefox first, here the sample:

 -- William, bitte-bitte um eine baldige Überarbeitung der
 -- deutschen Sender. Heinz und ich und viele andere
 -- werden es Dir Danken.

dont worry, this is just a test sentence without real meaning.

greetings      - heinz -